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PostPosted: 18 Apr 2013, 20:15 
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Melbourne Metro Rail Tunnel $30 billion rail fix

Tunnel to our future
By Amelia Harris - transport report. Herald Sun 28th March, 2013.

THE Melbourne Metro rail tunnel is key to expanding the city's train network to cope with booming patronage, according to a blue-print for the next 30 years.

Transport Minister Terry Mulder and Public Transport Victoria CEO Ian Dobbs released the four-stage construction plan for the network yesterday.

Mr Dobbs said he estimated the works would cost $30 billion, meaning governments would have to spend $1 billion a year for the next 30 years. He denied that the 140-page report was a PTV wish list.

"It really is meant to be a long-term vision for Melbourne," Mr Dobbs said.

The Public Transport Users' Association said the December 18-dated plan contained the right individual elements but in the wrong order, while opposition transport spokes-woman Fiona Richardson branded it an uncosted "thought bubble".

Under the Network Development Plan - Metropolitan Rail:

THE 9km Metro tunnel between South Kensington and South Yarra would be built, 33 high -capacity trains each capable of carrying 1100 people delivered and high-capacity signalling begun by 2023 as part of stage two;

NEW lines to Melbourne airport, Rowville and Doncaster would be completed by 2028 as part of stage three;

THE City Loop would be reconfigured, lines expanded and electrifications completed by 2033 as part of stage four.

Some stage one projects due to be completed by 2016 have already started or been completed.

Thirty-three high-capacity trains and a high-capacity signalling trial on the Sandringham line have not been funded. Metro has previously said it needed 47 new trains by 2017.

Mr Dobbs said Melbourne Metro was the key to improving the network's core capacity so it could cope with the expected more than doubling of patronage to 1.7 million commuters a day by 2031.

amelia.harris@news.com.au

My say: This $30 billion plan includes regular rail to Melbourne - Airport. I would consider the Maglev proposal to the Melbourne - Airport at a cost of $1.2 billion to be a better choice. Are there still 11,000 workers at Melbourne Airport? Would Melbourne as a Maglev train serviced airport help to lift Melbourne as a most livable city?


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PostPosted: 20 Apr 2013, 12:31 
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Maglev is very poor choice over such a short distance and it's cost unjustifiable.


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PostPosted: 21 Apr 2013, 00:08 
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Sure, I support regular Metro train services on existing lines (Broadmeadows) with a branch off to Melbourne Airport as an immediate short term solution & running under MYKI which would mean we could all afford to use it often.
To me, this is the simplest and most easily implemented thing to do right now. But not the ideal solution long-term.
Firstly, how many trains could that rail line cope with? Possibly one every five minutes in each direction? Would that mean 60 minutes divided by 5, or 12 departures every hour and another 12 arrivals every hour? How many electric Metro trains would be needed to provide that service for Melbourne Airport? How many drivers, how much maintenance; what about the running costs? Maglev may actually be cheaper in the long term.
Secondly, this Melbourne Metro airport rail route is also servicing suburban stations and that would make reliablity and timely trips to the airport a little uncertain. Melbourne Metro to the airport would also take longer, probably around 20 minutes, slower than Maglev.
Maglev trains would be worth costing against the proposed rail extension and, the numerous Metro trains required to service Melbourne airport without Maglev. Maglev is fast and reliable and can be bought/purchased 'off the shelf'; from TransRapid, Germany.
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And, remember you would only need two Maglev trains to do the airport with the 6 minute frequency from Southern Cross station as is desired, as opposed to how many Metro electric trains? Metro line trains would take 20mins each!


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Funding off the rails.GST roads bias hits Victoria's infrastructure kitty Herald Sun 23 April, 2013 p 11. By Matt Johnston and Amelia Harris

FEDERAL funding for the Melbourne Metro rail project would see Victoria's GST share slashed by hundreds of millions of dollars more than if a national road project was given the money.

Under Commonwealth infrastructure funding rules, the amount of GST given to a state is reduced significantly if money is given to a rail project.

But if a "national network" road gets a federal cash injection, there is a 50 per cent "discount" on the GST clawback.

A Victoria Treasury analysis shows that after a $3.2 billion federal cash injection for the Regional Rail Link, $2.2 billion will be ripped from Victoria's share of tax revenue.

If the money were spent on a national road instead, the clawback would only be $1.2 billion.

The Metro project, which is a 9km rail tunnel through inner Melbourne with new underground stations at North Melbourne, Parkville, CBD North, CBD South and the Domain, will cost billions to build.

This means if federal funding is provided for part of the project, GST cuts would be hundreds of millions of dollars more than if a road were funded instead.

Victorian Treasurer Michael O'Brien raised the issue personally with Federal Treasurer Wayne Swan earlier this month, but there was no commitment to resolve it.

"The federal government view seems to be that if you build a national road project, they will support you. But if you dare to build a significant rail project, then we will treat you much more harshly," Mr O'Brien said.

"The effect of the formula is that it hurts Victoria badly at the expense of some of our (state) neighbours, just because they've chosen road projects over rail projects."

The news comes as a report by Agenda Victoria found the state needs urgently to tick off vital transport projects such as Melbourne Metro and the east-west road connection.

The Federal government has hinted at providing funding for the Metro project, while the Opposition says if it were in government, $1.5 billion would be given to the east-west link.

According to Agenda Victoria and the RACV, which yesterday released its views on infrastructure funding ahead of the federal election, both projects are necessary.

The RACV says more than $30 billion must be spent on critical Victorian infrastructure projects like the east-west link and Melbourne Metro over 10 years.

completing the Metropolitian Ring Rd from Greensbourough to EastLink, duplicating the Western Highway to the South Australian border and duplicating the Princes Highway in eastern and western Victoria are also on the RACV's wish list.

RACV general manager of public policy Brian Negus said successive governments had "dropped the ball" on infrastructure funding. End quote.

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Melbourne's new Metro Tunnels - current project..

$25m to keep traffic moving.
Alex White. Herald Sun. 11 April, 2017.

"MELBOURNE'S transport network will undergo a $25 million overhaul to stop traffic grinding to a halt during the construction of the $10.9 billion Metro Tunnel.

A new map of the city wide disruption has been released by the Melbourne Metro Rail Authority revealing changes at 250 locations in Melbourne CBD, from the end of this year.

The overhaul is expected to affect more than 23,000 commuters who use St Kilda Rd as well as thousands north of the CBD for the next four years.

Remodelling includes:
CHANGES to traffic lights at 100 inner city intersections;
ABOUT 3000 vehicles displaced from St Kilda Rd during peak hours;
REZONING car parks for truck bays and clear ways;
MERGING tram routes from St Kilda Rd, affecting 20,000 commuters a day;
$1.5 MILLION of new CCTV cameras to monitor inundated traffic routes south of the CBD;
ALTERING pedestrian traffic signals in Parkville to influence drivers to find alternate routes.
TRAM routes 8 and 55 will be merged into a new route 58." END QUOTE.

To see more of the plan, visit;

http://www.metrotunnel.vic.gov.au/planning/Road-and-transport-network

MY SAY: What many don't know is that completing Melbourne's Metro tunnel projects ( which are numerous PVT objectives ), are used as a reason for freeing up the metro network to accept extra trains from congestion on the CBD city loop circuit and cross connections before making the Melbourne airport train connection into the Metro system. There are Youtube videos on the various massive cross city tunnel projects of which Melbourne Metro seems to be but one.

By contrast the Port Phillip Bridge project is absolutely minimal in terms of disruption and being a road project also qualifies Victoria for a higher GST rebate. MBBridge is also likely to be much cheaper than this Metro Rail MOAB segment. Only $25 million in its' traffic disruption budget!


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Melbourne Metro - straight up Swanston Street. 10 metres down.



I've worked in Swanston St. :D


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