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 Post subject: Re: Port Phillip Bridge
PostPosted: 17 Apr 2017, 13:29 
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Melbourne's Bay Bridge - Avioding the CBD to 'get to the other side.' OR;

"from Geelong 20 mins travel saving on Western Distributer, says Premier Daniel Andrews."


https://284532a540b00726ab7e-ff7c063c60e1f1cafc9413f00ac5293c.ssl.cf4.rackcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/160414-Delivering-The-Second-River-Crossing.pdf

This is a lengthy post: but, clearly stated in the next video is the objective of providing a route from Geelong to Pakenham. Effectively a more efficient road route to join Geelong and Dandenong / City of Casey; these areas being the fastest growing population centres. I clearly state my preference to do this by avoiding the Melbourne CBD by using MBBridge to join Geelong to Mornington Peninsula and route to Dandenong / City of Casey directly on Peninsula Link and EastLink.



Thursday, 14 April, 2016 - Media Release by Victoria State Government.
DELIVERING THE SECOND RIVER CROSSING
The Andrews Labor Government’s 2016/17 Victorian Budget will provide the full funding required to build the Western Distributor Project – a second river crossing that will slash travel time from Geelong by 20 minutes.
Although it is unheard of for the Commonwealth Government not to invest in a project of such national significance, the Labor Government is providing certainty to the community by allocating the $1.46 billion required over the forward estimates to get it done.
The Labor Government will continue its attempts to convince the Turnbull Government that a second river crossing and the significant travel time savings from Geelong warrant Commonwealth investment, however the Government will get it done with or without them.
The Government and Transurban have today also signed an agreement on processes for the tender, planning and engagement stages and announced the establishment of the Western Distributor Authority to get this project done.
We have also released the first full designs which include two options for connecting the West Gate Freeway to the Western Distributor Tunnel – either directly within the road reserve, or via ramps to a portal in adjacent land.
To get dangerous goods trucks – which can’t travel in a tunnel – out of residential streets, the designs include five ramp options to connect the West Gate Freeway directly to Hyde Street.
The Western Distributor will also link to the city and the surrounding road network with connections to CityLink, Dynon Road and an extended Wurundjeri Way.
Residents will be able to have their say on the design options through an extensive community consultation process, including community information sessions beginning on 16 April and online engagement starting today at http://www.westerndistributorproject.vic.gov.au.
The designs will continue to be refined as planning progresses and in light of community and other feedback.
Quotes attributable to the Premier Daniel Andrews
“We will build the long-overdue second river crossing, and cut travel time from Geelong by 20 minutes.”
“Although we will continue to advocate for the Turnbull Government to partner with us on this project, we simply cannot wait to get on with delivering it, and we’re getting it done with or without their support.”
Quotes attributable to the Treasurer Tim Pallas
“We’re getting on with the Western Distributor to cut congestion, take thousands of trucks off local streets in the inner-West, and create 5,600 Victorian jobs.”
Quotes attributable to the Minister for Roads Luke Donnellan
“We want to hear from residents, industry and local councils, to help understand what’s important to them to get the design right.”
Media Contact: Lisa Maksimovic 0421 597 669 | lisa.maksimovic@minstaff.vic.gov.au

April 7th, 2017 Media Release by Victoria State Government.

http://economicdevelopment.vic.gov.au/transport/major-projects/westgate-tunnel-project

http://wgtmap.u-c.com.au/imap02/indexMob.html

MY SAY: There would be no formal transport agreement surely with Lonsdale Consortium now leasing our Port? And naturally, a Port Phillip Bridge connecting Geelong with a new competing Container Port at Hastings and to Mornington Peninsula Link are totally irrelevant for acting now with immediate construction of the Western Distributor. Immediate direct solutions for today's problems. That's it.

http://wgtmap.u-c.com.au/imap02/indexMob.html



Four ( 4 kms ) kilometres of twin tunnels with three lanes each?
Where is all the rock and dirt going? Land reclamation to extend Port of Melbourne Container storage operations into our Port Phillip Bay? Lots of loads of excavation happening!

East-West Link from the Eastern Fwy; to Tullamarine Fwy; was proposed to be 4.4 kms of tunnels with the same rock and dirt disposal issues.


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 Post subject: Re: Port Phillip Bridge
PostPosted: 18 Apr 2017, 05:00 
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Melbourne's Bay Bridge - An Australian example of why we need to plan ahead.

http://www.tunneltalk.com/Australia-Oct ... -phase.php

West Connex NSW IS another 14 km of tunnels and 4 kms of 'cut & cover'; or, 'open slots' with some dedicated bus tunnels in the overall 33km upgrade project.

All indications that planned surface transport routes need to be completed before it becomes necessary to go underneath if construction costs are to be minimised.

And so it goes; if we are to have surface connections from our Port at Hastings over to Geelong via MBBridge then obviously those routes need to be determined as soon as possible.


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 Post subject: Re: Port Phillip Bridge
PostPosted: 20 Apr 2017, 22:04 
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Melbourne's Bay Bridge - Hydro generator vs Tasmania Hydro.

Premier of Tasmania Will Hodgeman declares Tasmania as deserving a role in Hydro storage as a back up generator to mainland Australia via another new 'extension lead'; the second BassLink cable connection under the sea! These guys are serious? You bet $1.1 billion plus ARENA funding to prove it!

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/hydro-tasmania-in-feasibility-study-to-increase-energy-capacity/news-story/86ac96e2f13b584e65a10b5ba4cf94b6

That's today's news 20th April, 2017.

Plus, don't forget the cost of implementing all the new pumped Hydro hardware and buying the power to pump the water back up these mountains... #-o

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https://www.facebook.com/theclimateinstitute/posts/10155067011737184

True cost of $3 billion.. who knows?

Port Phillip Bay doesn't need pumps to fill on 'high tide' or, 'empty out' through The Heads. It is a much larger natural storage of the kinetic energy from tidal flows than any artificial 'pumped Hydro scheme' could ever pretend to be.


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 Post subject: Re: Port Phillip Bridge
PostPosted: 11 May 2017, 00:54 
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Melbourne Bay Bridge - Design architecture for "off ramps."



"Truck fell down from an overpass Bridge / flyover."
YouTube dash cam video from China. Published 14 April, 2017.

Height clearance barely adequate.

Side barriers design? 50kph limit?

Cambered surface? Wet weather, winds?

Good design is important and considers the dangers.


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 Post subject: Re: Port Phillip Bridge
PostPosted: 18 May 2017, 16:17 
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Melbourne's Bay Bridge - Big cruise ships.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/travel/travel-news/sydneys-cruise-ship-capacity-hits-crisis-point-as-industry-leaders-warn-millions-at-stake/news-story/13a1ad9ace936eb6d4ef6d2c567b3b83

My say: When Melbourne operates these larger cruise ships out of Hastings it will be fabulous to have transport connections across to Geelong.


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 Post subject: Re: Port Phillip Bridge
PostPosted: 21 May 2017, 12:38 
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Port Phillip Bay Bridge - An infrastructure Victoria (est. Oct. '15).. submission.

My say: This is a breath of fresh air. Nice presentation.

http://www.yoursay.infrastructurevictoria.com.au/30-year-strategy/download_file/view/624/338


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