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PostPosted: 14 Feb 2011, 17:00 
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Corio wrote:
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San Francisco's cable trams are a great tourist attraction and a priceless example of our industrial and transport heritage. However they aren't part of that city's public transport network in any real sense, and nor is there any idea that they should be.

Well, San Francisco's cable trams are a very real functioning part of the city's public transport.

This from Wikipedia: "The cable cars are principally used by tourists rather than commuters. The system serves an area of the city that is already served by a large number of buses and trolleybuses."


It's not the first time that Wikipedia has been wrong,
and this is such an occasion.
Trolley buses and buses can't get up the steep hills.
They can't use the same street on the hills,
where the cable cars have absolute (repeat absolute) right of way.
On reaching the crest of the hill after one particularly steep climb,
the cable car stops in the middle of the intersection
to pick up or set down passengers.
When the cable car approaches that intersection,
the intersection has to be cleared of all traffic in order that
the cable car can enter and stop there.
Cable cars can't stop on hills, nor give way to vehicular traffic
on hills, simply because they can't stop. Their brakes cannot hold them
on hills, and they rely on the cable for braking while going down hills.
Simply put, cable cars cannot release the grip while going up hills.
If they did, they would run out of control backwards down the hill.


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PostPosted: 07 Apr 2011, 11:34 
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But goign back to my original statement - i do not mean lets restore them to what they were as if they were fresh off the 1930's production line - I said that say 20 should be done like that for prosperity - while the 150 other W class trams should have the interiors restored, but be mechanically changed. Several cities around the world have restored them, but put in modern mechanics, and in a wheel chair lift (which is quick to work) at one entrance for disabled people.

Yes, but that has only been done with a very few trams in a handful of cities, and all those trams are used purely for tourist purposes.

There are nine W-class trams operating on a "heritage" line in Memphis, and one W-class tram on similar line in Dallas. Seattle had a tourist route using five W-class trams, but that ceased operations five years ago. One other tram was restored and given as a wedding present from the Victorian Government to Princess Mary and Crown Prince Frederik of Denmark. It occasionally runs at the Danish Tramway Historical Society's museum in Jystrup. That's the sum total.

I must amend my above statement (fancy trusting Wikipedia).

Auckland's Museum of Transport and Technology has three W-class trams, two of which are in service along a short section of track between the two parts of the museum, and a third is currently having restoration work done.

An even shorter 1.5 kilometre tram loop is now under construction in the vicinity of the Auckland waterfront, to be served by "heritage" trams. Its first cars will be a W2-class and an X1-class from the Bendigo collection. Both originally ran in Melbourne; not much Auckland "heritage" in that.


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PostPosted: 07 Apr 2011, 23:53 
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For the 50 year celebrations in 1979 of the Glenelg tram,
two triple sets were operated. Here is one of the sets, courtesy of "Trolley Wire".


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File comment: Triple set, c. 1979.
GLENELG3.JPG
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