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PostPosted: 11 Aug 2011, 15:44 
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The Cliffe, 25 Bindaring Parade Peppermint Grove WA is finally up for sale after 16 years of being on demolition row.

The property (now on 1,630sqm of land) was constructed in 1894. The substantive additions to the dwelling, undertaken in 1899 were designed by prominent Western Australian architect J. Talbot Hobbs and the dwelling has historical associations with the prominent McNeil, Brisbane and McComb families.

The dwelling is registered on the Shire of Peppermint Grove's Municipal Inventory and with the National Trust on 6 March 1984, the Register of the National Estate on 30 June 1992, and the State Register of Heritage Places (original interim listing on 10 October 1995 and permanent listing on 27 February 2004). It was then removed from the State Register on 6 July 2004, with a second interim listing on 20 July 2004 and obtaining a permanent listing on 19 July 2005.

On Thursday 5 June 2008 the Legislative Council supported Parliament's first de-listing of an order by the Heritage Council so that the house could be demolished on the basis that the Government was potentially exposed to a $20 million lawsuit under the 1990 State Heritage Act. The Act, which had never previously been used, allows owners of heritage-listed properties to ask the Government to buy their property if its heritage listing makes it "incapable of reasonably beneficial use, and that the carrying out of any reasonable development could not render the land capable of reasonably beneficial use". The property was subsequently removed from the State Register of Heritage Places on 22 August 2008.

In October 2008, the Shire of Peppermint Grove approved the demolition of the building, although the Shire President did indicate that there was a desire among his fellow councillors to see at least the main rooms of The Cliffe relocated to a local park.

The process of the removal from the heritage list resurfaced from a complaint to the West Australian Corruption and Crime Commission in July 2009 with the main parties named denying any conspiracy.

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This property has its own website at savethecliffe.info/ and its own Wikipedia page.

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Fantastic interior shots Edwardian, the tiled floor in the bathroom is wonderful and that hallway is lovely as well.


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The bathroom floor is my favourite as well. The amazing thing is that it is ensuite to bedroom 5.

It is hard to believe that the current owner thinks it is an "not-unattractive old wooden house" and that property rights should allow owners to do whatever they like to historic properties.

The owner has a fortune of some $323 million and yet can't see the value of spending $2.8 million restoring the house which is now worth several times that amount. Although I question the cost of restoration because the photos make the place look better than alot of houses that I have seen which didn't cost half of that much to restore.

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